CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Ohio’s unclaimed funds account has grown by 50% in just five years — and while the state credits improved outreach, critics say ditching the old method of advertising the full list in newspapers may be leaving some people behind.
We’re talking about the $5 billion in that state repository of orphaned funds -- and how hard it is to stake your claim, on Today in Ohio.
Editor Chris Quinn hosts our daily half-hour news podcast, with editorial board member Lisa Garvin, impact editor Leila Atassi and content director Laura Johnston.
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Here’s what we’re asking about today:
All the talk about unclaimed funds and the Cleveland Browns got us wondering just what is going on with that fund, with how big it has become. Rich Exner found out all sorts of interesting detail about its recent giant leaps in size. What is the word?
It’s bizarre how many politicians are calling Donald Trump’s bill to give the rich a lot more money the big and beautiful bill, but they are. What do Ohio’s fledgling senators say they want in the bill before it passes?
This is yet another wacko, uneducated proposal from a state legislator to appear like he is doing something about the property tax crisis when all he is doing is trying to avoid scrutiny in the Legislature for it. It likely has no chance of passing. But what is he proposing now?
No technology in history has developed or been embraced more rapidly than artificial intelligence, and it is altering all areas of our lives. How is Ohio State University reacting to that with its curricula?
The various sections of the Cuyahoga River are so very different. The upper reaches are quiet canoeing and kayaking areas with some tight turns. Other parts are for the fast and adventurous. And one part is where you go to watch enormous freighters make tight turns. Our famous river just received a big distinction. What is it, and what does it mean?
The mayor’s race will be a snore, but we have some fasincating Cleveland City Council races ahead, with some controversial incumbents facing stiff challenges. Which races stand out?
A controversial Cleveland lawyer is Donald Trump’s new head of the Office of Legal Counsel, a powerful position in the Justice Department. We talked about him a few weeks ago. Did his confirmation come easily?
Travel writer Susan Glaser wrote a delightful piece about the détente between Americans and Canadians on Pelee Island in Lake Erie. How is everyone there making it work, amid the controversy of Donald Trump’s desire to annex Canada?
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Chris Quinn (00:01.304)
Friday the 13th and the first day of Laura’s vacation. I hope there’s not a correlation. It’s today in Ohio, the news podcast discussion from cleveland.com and the plane dealer. I’m Chris Quinn here with Lisa Garvin and Layla Tassi. Layla, all the talk about unclaimed funds and the Cleveland Browns got us wondering just what is going on with that fund and how big it has become in recent years.
Rich Exner found out all sorts of interesting details about its recent giant leaps in size. What is the word?
Leila (00:33.942)
Erich took a really close look at this and the numbers are kind of wild. mean, Ohio’s unclaimed funds account, that’s money from things like forgotten bank accounts, insurance payouts, and even some final paychecks from your former employers. That’s shot up by 50 % in just five years that are sitting in that repository. It’s now nearly $5 billion, as we know. Last year alone, the state brought in over $500 million in new money.
to that account, but it only paid out $149 million to people who were claiming their unclaimed funds. Also, the state has quietly stopped printing those big lists of names in newspapers, you the ones people used to scan to see if they or their relatives were owed any money. Now they’re just running ads that send folks to a website where they can search for their name. The Ohio Department of Commerce says it’s more efficient.
But some worry that fewer people will take that extra step or trust the process, especially older Ohioans who aren’t as online as much. I I also assume that you could easily miss those little ads versus the entire section of a newspaper that has all the names in it. Meanwhile, lawmakers are eyeing this growing fund as a low interest loan source, so including the proposed $600 million chunk to help pay for the Browns New Stadium in Brook Park. So yeah, there’s a lot of money sitting there.
But getting your hands on it that still takes some work and patience, even with all the right paperwork, claims can take months to process. So the moral of the story here is that if you haven’t checked recently, now’s the time. Go to unclaimedfunds.ohio.gov and type in your name because the state’s clearly not going out of its way anymore to find you.
Chris Quinn (02:16.369)
I do believe they’re going to be full page ads in newspapers. So it’s not, it won’t be a small ad, but it’s not what it was. The sad part is when they, when they ran the whole list of names, people scoured it. So they would let their neighbors and friends and others know who was on it. We had a good time finding all the public officials who were on it. And it was something people enjoyed doing. I believe you can still do that digitally county by county that there are pages where you can still do it, but it’s not as omnipresent as it was.
back then. Of course, newspaper circulation, as our story points out, is way, way down. Our audience is digital too. So I think that’s part of what plays into what cities that the state is doing. I did hear from quite a few people who had the same complaint you did about how hard it is to do this. And I do wonder, Lisa pointed out last time, it would be a waste of resources for the state to try and go chase all these people down.
Leila (03:02.068)
Mm-hmm.
Chris Quinn (03:13.294)
You I was saying they know who they are. Why don’t they reach out? But there might be a compromise, right? Where you find yourself on there and you click some boxes giving them permission to use their BMV history records to match you up with your address. You know, if the unclaimed fund shows that you’re owed $25 from five years ago when you lived at such and such address, your vehicle registration will show you that your income tax will do it.
And if you could click those boxes so that they could marry that up, they could very quickly say, okay, yes, that’s definitely Leila Tasi, who we owe the money to. Right now, the documentation they’re requiring from people is so onerous that I’m hearing from a bunch saying, it’s just not worth my time.
Leila (03:58.294)
Yeah, it’s nuts. In fact, this is the topic of my column on Monday. It’s for a fund that’s supposed to reunite people with their money. It shouldn’t be this hard. mean, it should be digital. You should be able to, you send things digitally instead of having to print everything off and fill out these forms and blah, You have to not only show your, you know, have your driver’s license, your social security number, a tax form. You have to find some evidence of the place you lived at the time when this money was, you know, accrued to you and...
All the stuff. And if it’s more than a certain threshold, I think $3,000, you have to have some sort of notarized documents. It’s crazy. that’s way too many. That’s why there’s so much money in there. People look at that and they’re like, who cares about 12 bucks?
Chris Quinn (04:35.702)
Yeah.
Lisa (04:39.749)
you
Chris Quinn (04:41.966)
Right, and that’s why I think there’s a good medium. They could link their databases, protect it, but if you knew you registered your card at that address or did an income tax return at that address and you could somehow give them digital permission, they could very quickly verify it and send the check. It wouldn’t take that much to set something up like that and it would probably give people back their money.
Leila (05:06.07)
Yeah, I mean, the state has record of me paying taxes from that address. What is so hard about this? Why? I mean, they clearly do not want you to go get the money. That’s the point.
Chris Quinn (05:10.263)
Right, exactly.
Chris Quinn (05:16.046)
All right. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. It’s bizarre, Lisa, how many politicians are calling Donald Trump’s bill to give the rich a whole lot more money, a big and beautiful bill, but they are every day. What do Ohio’s fledgling senators say they want in that bill before it passes?
Lisa (05:38.009)
Well, erstwhile Cleveland car dealer, Bernie Moreno has a laundry list of vehicle related provisions that he wants added to the big, beautiful bill. They include a 50 % tariff on tire imports from China, but not Canada or Mexico. he also wants to, pass the U S automobile consumer assistance and relief act.
also known as US car. That’s a tax write-off on auto loans, auto loan interest on US made cars, but it would only be for new personal vehicles. He wants to end all electric vehicle subsidies by September of this year and raise the annual fees on EVs and hybrids, double them basically. EVs would be $500 and hybrids would be $250. He wants to remove the corporate average fuel economy fines that are levied against automakers.
He wants to lower the federal excise tax on trucks from 12 % to 2%. He says the Republican party has a once in a lifetime chance to make car ownership affordable again. And also Senator John Husted in a Fox News interview, he said he’s gunning for more spending cuts and tighter work requirements for Medicaid recipients. He says that he wants to save Medicaid by making it financially sustainable. He all, yeah.
I know I had to chuckle at that one. He also wants to, he says the Senate and Moreno said the same thing. They have to pass this bill quickly before we get a good look at it. Probably. He says there’s too much at stake. This is our chance to get the America first policy done that looks out for the economy and working families. And he wants to keep Trump’s 2017 tax cuts. says failure to extend them would raise taxes and potentially trigger a recession.
Chris Quinn (07:27.16)
People keep trying to say that this is not going to take a lot of people off of Medicaid, which is just an absolute lie. If you cut the amount of money in Medicaid, people are gonna lose their benefits, but they keep trying to say they’re gonna save money in other ways, which is absolute nonsense. On the Moreno side, let’s face it, most of what he’s pushing is nonsense, but the idea of having EVs pay some sort of fee does get at the idea that we up,
upgrade and maintain our roads with a gas tax. And if you’re not buying gas and using the roads, you’re not paying your part. But the fee he’s trying to get dwarfs what people pay in the gas tax. And it really is reneging on the deal that was made with people. People were pushed and urged to get electronic vehicles because they’re good for the planet with the thought that they’ll also have some subsidy.
And taking that away is a serious reneging on the deal America made with these folks. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. This is yet another wacko, uneducated proposal from a new state legislator who wants to appear like he’s doing something about the property tax crisis when all he’s really doing is trying to deflect scrutiny from the legislature for causing it. It doesn’t have much chance of passing, Lisa, but what is he proposing now?
Lisa (08:34.181)
Thank you.
Lisa (08:50.915)
Yeah, this is House Bill 355 and it’s being pushed forward by Dave Thomas, a Republican from Ashtabula County. This would require a 60 % voter approval for any local tax levies. And this includes for schools, public libraries, and police and fire departments. He said, we know we have to act the outlandish spikes in property taxes while incomes haven’t grown. And that’s making it his top priority in the legislature. Local governments and public service officials say, yeah, we need change, but this isn’t it.
The Ohio Municipal League Executive Director Kent Scarrett says, is against the principle of majority rule. It could also violate the Ohio home rule protections to operate without state interference. The Ohio School Board Association spokesman Jennifer Hoag says school levies already face high scrutiny. It will be much more difficult to secure the money to meet student needs if this passes.
And Democrats in the legislature have tried and failed to insert what’s called a targeted relief plan. This would give credits or refunds to low and mid income homeowners if their tax bill exceeds a set percentage of their income.
Chris Quinn (10:00.984)
The reason people have voted to increase their property taxes is because the legislature keeps cutting the local government fund so they can reduce the income tax. Income tax was created with the promise that a lot of that money would go to the governments and for decades it did. It’s been taken away. People have voted for tax increases and now we’ve had a massive reassessment that has boosted tax bills. The legislature is the fault of this.
and this guy’s just trying to, no, no, no, pay no attention, I’m gonna go after the local government. This would cripple schools and health and human services funds and hospitals and mental health, but it’s an abject running away from the real responsibility, which is you should put the money back into the local government fund and keep the deal we made when we created the income tax.
Lisa (10:53.113)
Well, and this is also pushing that false narrative, you know, about, about, know, income taxes and so forth and property taxes, you know, people are, you know, want to get on the ballot that we don’t pay any property taxes at all. Well, that sounds great to people, but they don’t realize the downside of that. That’s $22 billion a year that goes into, you know, the state’s fund. So there’s no plan to make that up. So yeah, they’re pushing this false narrative. you know, high taxes, it’s terrible. Well, yeah, it’s terrible.
But what’s your solution? You don’t have one.
Chris Quinn (11:25.376)
If that happens, the property tax gets abolished, it’s going to be the end of the legislature because everybody who is in a school district will scream bloody murder. They’ll have no money. They won’t have money to keep the schools open. Schools would have to close. There’ll be a revolt and they’ll all get blamed on them. It’s not going to be blamed on anybody else but the governor and the legislature. They’re playing with fire here, but because of their
Lisa (11:36.761)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Chris Quinn (11:51.626)
nonsense and their Trumpism and their we’re reducing taxes mantra. They’re not dealing with it realistically. This is not a realistic attempt. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. No technology in history has developed or been embraced more rapidly than artificial intelligence. A study came out about this just this week, and it is altering all areas of our lives, even if we don’t actually see that.
Leila, how is Ohio State University reacting to this trend with its curricula?
Leila (12:21.854)
Ohio State is really leaning in on AI. They’re treating it as what it is, a fundamental shift that’s going to reshape every profession. So starting this fall, they’re launching an Institute for AI and Decision-Making to lead research and instruction across disciplines. And the goal here is to make sure that AI isn’t just something you learn if you’re a computer science major. They want students in healthcare, engineering, business, agriculture, even the arts to graduate.
with real AI literacy. And they’re planning new majors and minors that blend AI with other fields, and they’re overhauling existing courses to include AI applications, like how to use predictive tools in public health, or how generative AI might change creative work. So professors are getting training too, so they can keep up with the technology and responsibly teach students how to use it and how to question it. The university says that this is about making sure
future nurses and journalists and city planners and teachers all understand how AI will shape their work and how to think critically about it. It’s kind of just a really big bet on the idea that AI literacy is going to be as essential as reading or math in the workforce of tomorrow.
Chris Quinn (13:38.828)
I don’t know how they do what they’re going to do without having some kind of task force to constantly reassess it. We’re experiencing this in our newsroom. You and I talk about AI every single day. We are developing new tools for it every single week. It’s a fire hose of information that we’re trying to stay on top of and being challenged by it. I don’t see how a college could do it without having someone or some group of people.
Leila (13:46.87)
Yeah.
Chris Quinn (14:06.082)
who are responsible to constantly keep things up to date.
Leila (14:09.78)
Yeah, no, I agree. Everything, you know, even in our business, we’re trying to plan five years out on how AI is going to change the landscape of what we do. And it’s, it’s sometimes impossible to plan five months out because the technology is changing. But this is a very wise move on the, university’s part. I we’re seeing it firsthand in our field that AI is changing how we report stories. It’s reshaping how we find stories and how we
Chris Quinn (14:21.453)
Right.
Leila (14:36.832)
verify information, even how we engage with audiences. It’s happening so fast. So the skills that we thought would be optional a year ago are already becoming essential. So the fact that Ohio State is building AI into the core of its education across every discipline, it feels like exactly the kind of forward thinking that universities should be doing right now. I wonder how this will infiltrate down into
high schools and even the lower grades because I know that there is some real resistance to using AI, to putting this in the hands of students who are still learning how to put their thoughts on paper and how to articulate their feelings and opinions and how to synthesize materials. And AI is a shortcut in regards, but so I wonder how that’s all going to play out.
Chris Quinn (15:27.16)
You’re listening to Today in Ohio. The various sections of the Cuyahoga River are very different. The upper reaches are quiet canoeing and kayaking areas with tight turns. Other parts are fast and adventurous. And one part is where you go to watch those enormous freighters make tight turns. Lisa, our famous river just received a big distinction. What is it? What does it mean?
Lisa (15:49.999)
The U.S. Department of Interior has named a 41-mile stretch of the Cuyahoga River as a National Water Trail. It’s part of their Recreation Trails Network that promotes recreational use and heritage. the stretch in question would include 26-mile run through the Cuyahoga Valley National Park and six miles of the shipping channel down here in Cleveland.
The designation will be from north of Gorge Dam in Summit County to the mouth of the river in downtown. A national water trail does have requirements. It has to be navigable by canoes and kayaks without any interruption. You don’t have to take your boat out of the water anywhere. The designation is made possible because they just added two new access points that are opening soon. One is at Northampton Park on Akron Peninsula Road.
And the other is Zaclan River Landing under I-490. Now, CVNP River Ranger Ryan Anger applied for this designation. He says this has been their goal at the park since 2016 to be designated as a National Water Trail.
Chris Quinn (16:56.204)
The, the, the reason we can’t get the upper reaches into it is because of that Gorge dam, but there is a plan to take that out, which would allow you to have pretty much the entire river be part of the trail. Right. Yeah. It’s, it’s, it’s amazing how different that river is and it’s different parts. Some parts of it are just so quiet and serene and other parts noisy and busy.
Lisa (17:02.244)
Mm-hmm.
Lisa (17:08.421)
correct.
Lisa (17:19.151)
Again, heavy industrial and one of my favorite hangout places in Cleveland is down there at Merwin’s Wharf and Rivergate Park where that’s not collision bend, it’s the next bend in the river. And it really is fascinating to watch those freighters try and do that turn.
Chris Quinn (17:35.726)
You’re listening to Today in Ohio. The mayor’s race will be a snore, but we do have some fascinating Cleveland city council races ahead, Layla, with some controversial incumbents facing pretty stiff challenges. Which races stand out?
Leila (17:50.442)
Yeah, you’re totally right, Chris. The mayor’s race is looking like it’s a pretty done deal because Justin Bibb’s only challenger is this Republican long shot Laverne Gore. But the action is really on city council because the map has been redrawn. And that means that some alliances are cracking and even some state lawmakers are jumping in. The biggest bombshell is that Ward 1 Councilman Joe Jones is getting a serious challenge from state representative Juanita Brent.
She waited until the filing deadline to make it official, but she’s out of time in Columbus, term limited, and clearly aiming to shake things up back home. Then there’s this pair of incumbent versus incumbent matchups thanks to redistricting. In Ward 5, Richard Star faces Rebecca Moorer, and that race is already splitting progressives. Same in Ward 10, where veteran Mike Polenski filed a run against Anthony Hairston, though Polenski is still...
hedging on whether he’s actually staying in this race. Progressive pack, a better Cleveland for all is also stirring the pot, backing challengers like Tanmay Shaw in Ward 12 and Alana Bell in Ward 9, both going up against entrenched incumbents. And in Ward 11, where there’s no incumbent, two newcomers, Nikki Hudson and Andrew Fontana Rosa are squaring off there. So yeah, the mayoral race is looking sleepy, but
Council is going to gear up to be anything but that.
Chris Quinn (19:18.744)
Now, Polensk is the longest serving councilman, probably anywhere in the country. The guy’s been there forever. And when he kind of made a deal, if you put Collinwood back together, I’ll, I’ll step out, which we all heard, although I don’t think he’s ever said it and let Hairston have it. It was hard for me to believe that Mike Polensk can ever walk away. This is his life. This is who he is. It’s what he gets his nourishment from. And I just don’t.
It’ll be interesting to see. I just don’t see how he walks away because what will he do with himself when this is all he’s done for decades?
Leila (19:51.186)
Yeah, it’s
Right. On one hand, he is a city council institution. He’s, like you said, the longest serving member, but he’s sharp as ever and he is clearly still energized by this job. He doesn’t seem burned out like some other lifers might. If anything, like you said, he thrives on that political back and forth that most folks would run from. I mean, so many times, especially around things like redistricting.
Chris Quinn (20:03.905)
Right.
Chris Quinn (20:10.796)
No, no.
Leila (20:22.132)
You can see the fire in his eyes when you’re talking to him. just, he loves it. And he loves to talk about, you know, his storied history of all the conflagrations that he has been in the middle of. But, you know, on the other hand, he’s a grandfather and there’s a sense that, you everyone gets with their family that they want to spend more time with family when they reach a certain part of their career, it’s time to move on. But, so we’ll see what happens.
Chris Quinn (20:49.838)
think about this, when I covered city council, which ended in 2002, he already was one of the longest serving council members in history. And it is now a quarter, almost a quarter century later. I mean, the guy has just stayed around and stayed around and he’s vigorous and enthusiastic and he’s in the center of all the debates. I think he thrives on it and he can’t give it up. We’ll see the Marr star.
battle is going to be interesting too. And while most people I think think Star is going to win that based on how much of that word was his to begin with, I’m not sure. We’ll have to see if Mar pulls it out. She’s been very, very diligent about serving her constituents.
Leila (21:37.962)
Yeah, those are two very different kinds of public servants. I Rebecca Moore, very progressive in her thinking, you know, has policy on top of mind, very smart. Richard Starr, a hero in his neighborhood. mean, literally, he is kind of a father figure to so many youth in his community and worked for the Boys and Girls Club, which is an institution in that ward. So he is uniquely positioned too. So that will be one to watch.
Lisa (21:59.132)
and work for the voice of both parties.
Chris Quinn (22:07.766)
except with star he came in is the outsider the guy who wanted to change things became the consummate insider how dare you criticize counsel has that blaine griffin attitude that he’s as a councilman he’s almost royalty i’ve been surprised at the change in who he is where mar did nothing like that
Leila (22:18.518)
Mm-hmm.
Leila (22:28.5)
Yeah, that’s true. And I think that’s kind of the, that’s the, unfortunately, the Kool-Aid that everyone’s served up when they walk in and are you going to drink it or not? It’s tough. It’s hard to resist, I think, with you. I know.
Lisa (22:34.789)
.
Chris Quinn (22:38.06)
Yeah, and I was, it was disappointing to see him drink it. Yeah. Yeah. He’s been a disappointment as a councilman. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. A controversial Cleveland lawyer is Donald Trump’s new head of the Office of the Legal Counsel, a powerful position in the Justice Department. Later, we talked about him a few weeks ago. Did his confirmation come easily?
Leila (23:00.998)
Not exactly a smooth ride for Elliot Gazer, the Cleveland native and Ohio Solicitor General that we were talking about. He did clear a big hurdle this week, but only along party lines. The U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee approved his nomination to lead the Office of Legal Counsel. That’s one of the most powerful legal advisory roles in the Justice Department, with all 12 Republicans voting yes and all 10 Democrats voting no.
So Republicans praised his resume, especially his clerkships with Justice Alito and Judge Naomi Rao and his work at top law firms like Jones Day. But Democrats were not convinced with this guy. Senator Sheldon Whitehouse called him completely unqualified and accused the Trump administration of picking loyalists over experienced legal minds, folks that they believe will tell the president what he wants to hear. I mean, that’s no surprise. But during his confirmation hearing, Geyser was,
Lisa (23:49.957)
what he wants to hear, he has no surprise. But during his confirmation hearing, Geisel was thrilled over some of the eyebrow-raising issues like Trump’s potential to use it in private, played with Qatar as Air Force One, and passed criticism as he’s made a call to the South.
Leila (23:55.51)
grilled over some pretty eyebrow raising issues like Trump’s potential use of a private plane from Qatar as Air Force One and past criticisms he’s made of Trump himself. But he didn’t flinch. He leaned into his conservative credentials, talking about protecting borders, avoiding weaponized government and serving, quote, the forgotten men and women. So no, it wasn’t easy for him, but it’s not over. He still needs full Senate confirmation. If approved,
He will be in a position to shape how the executive branch interprets and applies the law, which under Trump could have major implications.
Chris Quinn (24:32.856)
another Clevender on the national stage. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. Travel writer Susan Glaser wrote a delightful piece about the detente between Americans and Canadians on Pele Island in Lake Erie. Lisa, how is everyone there making it work amid all the controversy of Donald Trump’s desire to annex Canada into the United States?
Lisa (24:54.777)
Yeah, Susan talked to a wealth of people on Pele Island, business owners and residents and Americans and Canadians. You know, Pele Island is in Ontario. It’s just north of Kelly’s Island, which is in Ohio. So we have Ohioans and Canadians living side by side on the island. Marty McLennan, who is a bartender at the Dog and Goat restaurant, says, you know, despite the heated rhetoric between the two countries, he says over here, everyone is hand in hand. We’re Switzerland.
But many of the people that Glauser interviewed are not neutral at all. Many are very upset with Trump wanting Canada to become the 51st state and also about the tariffs, which is expected to raise costs and unemployment in Canada, but they still get along with their Trump supporting neighbors. know, Kim Gardner, who’s the curator at the Pele Island Heritage Center says, you just don’t throw away decades of friendship over a political situation.
Akron resident Mary Jo Roscoe, she owns a cottage and she says she’s hoping for the best this summer. says, honestly, we don’t talk politics with our Canadian friends. Mayor Kathy Miller says we all have love for this place. We don’t care how our neighbors voted. We really care if they can grill a good steak and have good beer.
Chris Quinn (26:08.908)
I do think there’s something about being on water that lowers your blood pressure. If you’re out on Lake Erie, do you really want to mix it up and get angry? Or do you want the serenity that comes with the vast waterfront? just, I, my bet is that that helps keep people’s perspective.
Lisa (26:28.389)
I would agree. Yeah, because it has a resort atmosphere and you’re off, you know, you’re off land, you’re on an island. And so you’re kind of away from all the Sturm and Drang, but I agree with you. But I think people say, okay, I know that some of my neighbor, one lady said, you know, my neighbor is a Trumper, you know, but we talk, you know, we, but we just don’t talk politics. I think that’s the key there.
Chris Quinn (26:50.53)
Like, Layla, you’re going to be in the Outer Banks in not too long. My bet is that your aggravation with the misdeeds of your children is much lower when you’re sitting looking at the ocean than when you’re sitting in your home in Bay Village. Right? That’s the ingredient we all need. We all need to live on the water.
Leila (27:03.488)
This is true. You nailed it.
Chris Quinn (27:11.938)
You’re listening to Today in Ohio. That’s it for the Friday episode. That’s it for a week of news. Come back and join us next week when we’ll be talking about more news. Thanks, Lisa. Thanks, Leyla. Thank you for being here.